Curse

Red Sonya · Nov 05, 2007, 06:16 PM // 18:16

Since inscribeable items only drop in Nightfall and now Gwen it really takes away playing in Factions and Prophecies anymore for equipment/items. As those that drop in NF and GWEN will have inscribeable and focus items I can salvage out of them most often while Factions and Prophecies doesn't.

We still need something in Factions and Prophecies to equal to NF and GWEN when it comes to inscribeable equipment. So, my suggestion is that while weapons and items in Prophecies and Factions still won't have inscribeable or focus slots we can still SALVAGE the mods out of them to use in NF and GWEN? How's that sound? That way I could play in Factions and Prophecies in new areas and be able to salvage out the mods without ruining the value of antique weapons and items from those chapters. A Crystalline sword would never be inscribeable, but, one could still be able to salvage out all the mods on it.

I know we can salvage some things out of the Factions and Prophecies weapons/items, but, I would like to be able to salvage out as much in them as I can in NF and GWEN that is all. Like the +15^50's and +5 energy, all the inscribeables without leaving a slot to input something else on them. Just a nice salvage all chapters and expansion feature.

Red Sonya · Nov 05, 2007, 06:21 PM // 18:21

@Moderator
Can you change Insignias to Inscribeables instead for me in the Title? I always get them confused.
Thanks.

Phoenix Tears · Nov 05, 2007, 06:24 PM // 18:24

I say it straight, Anet is just to lazy to change this little thing on P/FA weapons, because they only work atm on "bug" killing and on GW2 ...

I doubt not, when they r finish with all that, that they will do anything further to improve GW1, little things like making the weapon system of all campaings the same

Sir Pandra Pierva · Nov 05, 2007, 06:24 PM // 18:24

/semi signed

It's an ok thing I almost never really use inscriptions since you still can get freak drops in Proph

Jetdoc · Nov 05, 2007, 06:27 PM // 18:27

Isn't it easy (and cheap) enough to simply by the inscriptions you want from other players?

There are very few inscriptions that exceed 5K, and the substantial majority of them can be had for 1K or less...

Red Sonya · Nov 05, 2007, 07:04 PM // 19:04

I don't like buying things. I enjoy adventuring for them. If I wanted to buy things I might just as well buy gold online and just buy everything I wanted and forget adventuring. The game is about adventuring yah know?

I'd just like to be able to play all the Chapters and get near the same benefits as one vs the other. I'm not asking for inscribeable weapons/equipment in Factions and Prophecies, just the ability to salvage them out of those weapons/equipment and give me more areas to play in besides NF and GWEN.

JASON626 · Nov 05, 2007, 07:11 PM // 19:11

The Deep and Urgoz End mission chest drops Inscribable weapons.

Atra Culpa · Nov 05, 2007, 07:26 PM // 19:26

Everything implemented after NF had inscription slots. so all of GW:EN, the end of elite mission chests (Urgoz, the Deep, UW and FoW).

I figure it's a basic of changing the coding somewhere.

While i liked the luck of the draw before NF to identify a gold and see it's inherent mods, it does get frustrating when all you find are duds and merchant fodder.

Inscribables etc helped not only bring down market value of high end weapons but also helped everyone get the weapon with the mods they wanted.

Thinking about it though, most of the weapons available in Factions and Prophecies are available in either NF and/or GW:EN so it really wouldn't make a difference.

/half signed

Njaiguni Blaze · Nov 05, 2007, 07:31 PM // 19:31

Get it right, it's inscriptions, not insignia's. And I guess that with focus you mean Focus Cores and Shield Handles.
These were a feature of GW:NF, it may or may have not made ppl buy GW:NF. Just like the material storage and elite missions being exclusive to GW:F. They already gave us the Insignias recently, and they'll probably do the same thing with Inscriptions and Cores/Handles. But, you've lost nothing, you only gained something in another campaign. They didn't screw over an old campaign, they just made more options(=better) in another campaign.
But, Onoz!!! Now you have to "abandon" a game to get something you want. Hell no! Inscriptions and Cores/Handles are available from every average player. Inscribable and moddable weapons are attainable from a simple Pile of Elemental Dust- or Beserker Horn collector. So what's the big frikking deal?

HawkofStorms · Nov 05, 2007, 07:37 PM // 19:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by Njaiguni Blaze

But, Onoz!!! Now you have to "abandon" a game to get something you want. Hell no! Inscriptions and Cores/Handles are available from every average player. Inscribable and moddable weapons are attainable from a simple Pile of Elemental Dust- or Beserker Horn collector. So what's the big frikking deal?

/agreed

I just don't see the OP's logic, nor do I see the need for this request (though it is a happy medium between making Factions/Phrop drop inscribable items or not at all).

MirkoTeran · Nov 05, 2007, 07:40 PM // 19:40

/unsigned

This has been discussed many times. I don't think we need another thread about it.

greenreaper3 · Nov 06, 2007, 02:38 AM // 02:38

unsigned...price of these rare ass skins will go down...like gothic defender
gothic longsword...gothic axe....magma shield.....etc

Red Sonya · Nov 06, 2007, 06:16 AM // 06:16

Some of you guys (namely greenreaper3 and MirkoTeran and Hawkofstupidity)didn't even read what I said. It would have no effect on the RARE SKINS if you could just salvage out the mods and keep the skins uninscribeable. Learn to read and comprehend. The RARE skins and those rare 15^50 rare skins would never change from what they are now. All I want out of the Prophecies and Factions items/equipment is to be able to salvage ALL the parts out of them like we can in NF/GWEN already. Not lower the value of the rare skin.

HawkofStorms · Nov 06, 2007, 07:16 AM // 07:16

I see your point Red_Sonya. I know it wouldn't change uninscribable market. That's why I say its a really nice happy medium between the two sides of the inscribable/uninscribable arguement. All I'm saying is... why do we need these changes? Its not really neccessary.

People who disagree with you aren't neccessaryly morons.

Div · Nov 06, 2007, 07:45 AM // 07:45

3 words. Anet is lazy. End of thread.

Str0b0 · Nov 06, 2007, 07:58 AM // 07:58

I'm confused. Do you not own GWEN or Nightfall? If you don't then what would be the point of salvaging those mods off your weapons in the manner you describe?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red Sonya

Like the +15^50's and +5 energy, all the inscribeables without leaving a slot to input something else on them. Just a nice salvage all chapters and expansion feature.

If you only have prophecies then this suggestion would do you no good since you couldn't socket the mods in other weapons. They would simply be trade goods and nothing more which hardly meshes with your later post about how you didn't want to buy things you wanted to adventure for them. If you have all the expansions then you can go get those mods and the skins you want and make whatever weapon your heart desires. If all you want is trade goods then you can adventure for those inscriptions all day long in NF or GWEN. I just don't see any logic to what you want.

thedeadlyassassin · Nov 06, 2007, 08:09 AM // 08:09

Well, I guess I'd have to agree here. Although, I don't mind it at all. It's been said, the price is about 3-5k max for an inscription, and are easy to obtain in NF and GWEN. If you think that proph and factions aren't worth playing because they don't have inscriptions... well... I donno what to say.

Longasc · Nov 06, 2007, 08:16 AM // 08:16

@OP

The thread title does not make clear your suggestion to introduce inscriptions to Prophecies and Faction as well.

This said, I fully support that. Both chapters are pure retarded crap, this are the friendliest words I can find.

The "rare item" argument makes me cringe, as if the few perfect items owned by some guys that will never be seen 99,999% of the other players can make up for -everyone- getting craptastic loot in Factions and Prophecies.

/signed, plus asking the question if ANet is just lazy. That they still did not update Factions and Prophecies is something I cannot understand.

Red Sonya · Nov 07, 2007, 02:29 AM // 02:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Str0b0

I'm confused. Do you not own GWEN or Nightfall? If you don't then what would be the point of salvaging those mods off your weapons in the manner you describe?

If you only have prophecies then this suggestion would do you no good since you couldn't socket the mods in other weapons. They would simply be trade goods and nothing more which hardly meshes with your later post about how you didn't want to buy things you wanted to adventure for them. If you have all the expansions then you can go get those mods and the skins you want and make whatever weapon your heart desires. If all you want is trade goods then you can adventure for those inscriptions all day long in NF or GWEN. I just don't see any logic to what you want.

The reason I suggested this Strobo is because I want to be able to play in MORE than NIGHTFALL and GWEN to get INSCRIBLE MODS. I dont care about the weapons and offhands in FACTIONS and PROPHECIES, but, I'd like to be able to PLAY in more AREAS where I can SALVAGE EVERYTHING in EVERY CHAPTER.

As it is now if I want inscribealbe mods I HAVE TO PLAY IN NF or GWEN. With my suggestion I could play in ALL chapters and the boring repeated farming for these mods wouldn't be so boring as I could do it in ALL the chapters and not just a few places in NF and GWEN? Get the point now?

It's not about the SKINS of Factions or Prophecies at all. I just want to be able to PLAY there and get the MODS out of the weapons and offhands without ruining the values of the non-inscribeable items in either chapter.

It's the win/win suggestion for those that don't want rare skins to all of a sudden be in everyones hands with perfect mods. Yet, still allows EVERYONE who has ALL the chapters to be able to SALVAGE ALL the MODS out of them at least.

Njaiguni Blaze · Nov 07, 2007, 07:59 AM // 07:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red Sonya

As it is now if I want inscribealbe mods I HAVE TO PLAY IN NF or GWEN. With my suggestion I could play in ALL chapters and the boring repeated farming for these mods wouldn't be so boring as I could do it in ALL the chapters and not just a few places in NF and GWEN? Get the point now?

So, you're saying that Anet forces you to play GW:NF or GW:EN? Because you can't get good weapons without those two? Gee, I wonder how Guild Wars must've sucked before GW:NF and GW:EN came out. I mean, you could never get a good weapon, even the weapons from the collectors were crap, right? WRONG! There was always a good oppertunity (spelling? ><) to get perfect weapons. You'd just have to turn in some trophies at some collector. As for the rare skins: making Kaineng Axes, Zodiac Weapons, Celestial Weapons etc inscribable DOES lower their price. If you find a req 9 Kaineng Axe, and the inherent mod is crap, like a +15 while hexed, you have a lower chance of selling it as if it were inscribable. Inscribable weapons don't have to drop perfect, they only need to have a good req, you slap on some upgrades which you got for peanuts and then sell a perfect weapon. Inscribable weapons would affect the prices of rare skin, there's no denying it.